Good morning listeners. Today's a very special episode with Will Rhind CEO and founder of Granite Shares. Will has extensive experience in both the ETF and gold industries. He was principal at I shares from 2002 to 2007. Following this, he . . . Jacob Wolinsky is the founder of ValueWalk.com, a popular value investing and hedge fund focused investment website. Prior to ValueWalk, Jacob was VP of Business Development at SumZero. Prior to SumZero, Jacob worked as an equity analyst first at a micro-cap focused private equity firm, followed by a stint at a smid cap focused research shop.